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Matt Karash
Carolina Hurricanes
Joined: 09.27.2005

Feb 5 @ 11:09 PM ET
Matt Karash: Might Canes use the trade frenzy for more permanent upgrade of blue line?
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Feb 6 @ 1:32 AM ET
Matt Karash: Might Canes use the trade frenzy for more permanent upgrade of blue line?
- CarolinaMatt63


no.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Feb 6 @ 1:42 AM ET


PARTYYYY INT HIS THREADDD LETS DO IT UPPPPP
Haunski
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: NC
Joined: 12.11.2013

Feb 6 @ 2:19 AM ET
Why fix what isn't broken. And you left out Komisarik who has been playing better than Harrison and Murphy. IMHO Bellemore and Komisarek have the potential to be one of the most physical 3d pairings in the league.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Feb 6 @ 2:20 AM ET
Why fix what isn't broken. And you left out Komisarik who has been playing better than Harrison and Murphy. IMHO Bellemore and Komisarek have the potential to be one of the most physical 3d pairings in the league.
- Haunski


That is some sick joke
therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

Feb 6 @ 3:08 AM ET
Matt Karash: Might Canes use the trade frenzy for more permanent upgrade of blue line?
- CarolinaMatt63



You forgot to add Edler to your list. Hurricanes won't get a potential stud without grossly overpaying unless they make a trade. I don't get why Yandle is in so many trade discussions. Phoenix would be in trouble without him.
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Feb 6 @ 8:10 AM ET
No 1's taking Ruutu unless the Cain's eat 1/2 the salary & I'm not even sure you could get someone to accept him at a cap hit of 2.375. Put a fork in it & buy him out.

Ehrhoff isn't being moved. Why would Buffalo move their #1 Dman when they have bitten the bullet on that contract. They get him cheap the remainder of the way.

Campbell might be had but Florida isn't giving him away. He's not really overpaid when you consider he has been top 3 for Dman minutes played in the NHL since arriving in Florida & until this seasn also put up decent points. His last year in Chicago he lost his PP time & played on a shut down unit with Hjalmarsson. He finished plus 28, Keith minus 1.

Wideman might be had but Calgary isn't giving him away. What does Carolina have to trade? The cupboard is pretty bare, they can't ice 3 NHL quality lines now & the prospect pipeline is pretty bare as well. So it would have to be draft picks. Meaning your giving up at least a 1st but unlikley Wideman only gets moved for a 1st. A defensemen that can log big minutes.

Daley's not moving. Signed for 3 more years at 3.3 million. Very reasonable money.

Yandle might be had for a scoring winger. Something Phoenix is sorely missing & they have a ton of yound Dman coming. Unfortunately Carolina doesn't have any scoring wingers other than Semin or Skinner. I'm not certain Skinner gets you Yandle.

Franson could be had or Gardiner. There almost the same asset with slightly different sparkles.

The reason most of these Dman can't be had is for the very rason you state. Not enough Dman to do around & the cost for a decent top 4 Dman is going over 5 mil per season. Girardi is the perfect example. No way I pay Girardi more than 5 million but someone will as a UFA if NYR doesn't pony up.

Edler will be available in the off season but it would cost Skinner & a solid prospect. Do you want to pay that?

It's simple supply & demand economics. Dman that make reasonable money & can play over 20 minutes a night are hard to acquire. I think Vancouver stealing Daze out of Montreal for a 4th line grinder was amazing. Diaz has logged top 4 TOI in Mtl in his previous 3 seasons & is just learning the NHL game. He will never hit but willingly blocks shots, plays a sound positional game, is a very good skater & has some untapped offensive potential.

I think Carolina needs to go back to the bargain bin & find another Sekera. There out there just hard to convince teams to give them up. Kindle, Savard, Scandella etc.
CappyJr.
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Indian Trial, NC
Joined: 08.16.2011

Feb 6 @ 12:17 PM ET
Keep Hainsey and possibly go after Franson. You can't teach size and with his hard shot might be a good fit. In a perfect world, Ruutu for Campbell I'd do all day, but just can't see it happening. Just not enough to give FLA back to be attractive.

Marc Staal....yes. Not sure if he wants to come to CAR though, we'll see this summer.
Barbecued Hockey
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Fuquay-Varina, NC
Joined: 05.11.2009

Feb 6 @ 1:33 PM ET
Any word on Pitkanen? Will he ever wear a Canes uniform again?
elaeskimos
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: WNC/Ga., NC
Joined: 07.11.2011

Feb 6 @ 1:55 PM ET
Keep Hainsey and possibly go after Franson. You can't teach size and with his hard shot might be a good fit. In a perfect world, Ruutu for Campbell I'd do all day, but just can't see it happening. Just not enough to give FLA back to be attractive.

Marc Staal....yes. Not sure if he wants to come to CAR though, we'll see this summer.

- CappyJr.


Any word on Pitkanen? Will he ever wear a Canes uniform again?
- Barbecued Hockey


The idea of trading Hainsey I say doubtful and, going after Franson then JR better hurry but, as we Canes fans know a #3C is the top priority and the player HAS to be able to bring something o a PP that is absolute diarrhea as it ahs cost the team some very valuable points this season.

Marc Stall is a done deal to the Canes as he isn't even mentioned in NY anymore regarding resigning or trading as which idiot GM would offer anything for a player who was going somewhere else at the first chance and unless Sather has lost his mind he would offer him the Canes for something next season or lose him for nothing after next season but then again why would JR offer anything for a player he will get anyway?

Pitkanen could be in the mix next season as JR loves reclamation projects that's on the cheap better than he likes keeping his hands warm with his arse when the team needs a player but, only If Pits can prove he can play at a high level again and the last report he was starting to put weight on the heel again so we'll see.
grubber
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: NC
Joined: 08.08.2006

Feb 6 @ 2:26 PM ET
I agree Matt that losing Hainsey would create a hole on D and don't see them trading him until March deadline and only if they are not a playoff team at that time.

I don't think there will be any upgrades on D prior to the deadline for Canes as:
1) this is not the biggest hole on the team currently and
2) Canes have almost zero trade-able assets with probably the worst prospect pool in the league and already holes in the top 9 group of forwards

I don't see Canes as buyers at the deadline even if they are in the playoff picture unless they are taking on other teams' bad contracts to get rid of some of their own (Ruutu, Ward). I do see them as sellers (Hainsey, Khudobin, Malhotra) if they are not looking like they will make the playoffs.

I imagine they have Murphy penciled in a a future top 4 guy....just might be a couple of years to get there, with Liles providing the bridge. I like Hainsey I hope they bring him back next year.
Caniac-16
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.13.2013

Feb 6 @ 4:02 PM ET
Denis Wideman ?!?!?!?! He doesn't understand what defense means . This guy should be making around league minimum > Junk
elaeskimos
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: WNC/Ga., NC
Joined: 07.11.2011

Feb 6 @ 6:40 PM ET
I agree Matt that losing Hainsey would create a hole on D and don't see them trading him until March deadline and only if they are not a playoff team at that time.

I don't think there will be any upgrades on D prior to the deadline for Canes as:
1) this is not the biggest hole on the team currently and
2) Canes have almost zero trade-able assets with probably the worst prospect pool in the league and already holes in the top 9 group of forwards

I don't see Canes as buyers at the deadline even if they are in the playoff picture unless they are taking on other teams' bad contracts to get rid of some of their own (Ruutu, Ward). I do see them as sellers (Hainsey, Khudobin, Malhotra) if they are not looking like they will make the playoffs.

I imagine they have Murphy penciled in a a future top 4 guy....just might be a couple of years to get there, with Liles providing the bridge. I like Hainsey I hope they bring him back next year.

- grubber



The one thing JR better be careful is with the cap going up next season he can fill a #3C position If he can get a player under contract other than wait until FA and pay a lot more as there is no sense to bid up a players price when you can get him for less with a trade this year.
randycane
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: United States, NC
Joined: 06.09.2008

Feb 6 @ 8:03 PM ET
Keep Hainsey and possibly go after Franson. You can't teach size and with his hard shot might be a good fit. In a perfect world, Ruutu for Campbell I'd do all day, but just can't see it happening. Just not enough to give FLA back to be attractive.

Marc Staal....yes. Not sure if he wants to come to CAR though, we'll see this summer.

- CappyJr.

Agree with Hainsey/ Franson...this seems very workable!
I guess i'm the only one who thinks Ruutu shouldn't be traded! Then again i've actually been watching how he's playing, and more important hitting EVERYTHING in sight! His salary is a bit high, but getting someone who replaces his hitting and skating isn't cheap, and easier said than done!
Staal would be very expensive, and require some fancy footwork to acquire/ pay!
Pitkanen may effectively replace Hainsey (if healthy), or if Hainsey is retained too...then will make our D that much deeper!!! Nice problem to have!